Good vs Good

First off this isn't me hating the concept of good guys vs good guys because quite frankly, when done right, it can be a entertaining story. However I just want to talk about this topic because there are certain situations within this topic that I find irritating. So today I'm going to jot down some examples relating on the subject as to how a good vs good story can be really good and sometimes it can be wallbangingly horrible.

Wolverine vs Cyclops

Yes any comic fan are familiar with the story of how these two are at eachother's throats. To be perfectly honest, I find it overrated. The whole Wolverine, Scott, Jean love triangle has been told so many times that it has lost whatever appeal it had since the triangle started. Also it can get irritating when it starts to affect how either side leads the team and even put their own teammates in danger because Wolverine and Cyclops couldn't just stow their crap.

One of the things I liked about X-Men Evolution is that it didn't use the love triangle issue and it didn't have Logan and Scott at eachothers throats. Hell Logan even supported Jean/Scott. That alone in itself was refreshing.

Whats even sadder is that when Jean is dead and out of the picture instead of having Cyclops and Wolverine settle their differences they're still at eachothers throats and you know what that soon resulted in? Avengers vs X-Men.

It's like no matter what they do they always get in a fight over something that eventually ends up putting the whole team in jeopardy.

What I also don't really care for is that whenever Cyclops and Wolverine fight you hardly see Jean step in and put a stop to it. In honesty it just makes her look bad on her part. That and the sneaking behind Scott's back to make out with Logan doesn't do her any favors.

Also, if I'm wrong then pardons because it's been awhile since reading an X-Men comic, nobody has called either side out on their crap and the damage it's doing to the team. If I were one of the X-Men I'd get annoyed whenever Scott and Logan bicker over Jean and even more irritated when Jean just watch.

I'm glad that Marvel is the only company of the big two that has the decency to not do a reboot but if it comes a time that they do then pleeeease don't rehash an old tired story involving the love triangle. Why not try something innovative?

Civil War/Avengers vs X-Men

Ugh where to begin. You have one arc that pretty much was Marvel's equivalent of Identity Crisis but instead of a physical rape it metaphorically raped the characteristics of the Marvel Characters and almost destroyed what made them likable then on the other hand you have an arc that is basically Civil War II with both characters not learning squat from their previous experience.

The way I look at it Civil War was something that could have been settle if things were just talked out instead of one big "Lets all settle our differences by fighting eachother."

The sad thing about this is that despite who is right and who is wrong you have both leaders Steve/Tony and Scott/Logan/Steve again acting pretty childish in the whole conflict. And the storyline on each arc was pretty half assed to begin with. Which says something when Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 did a better version of Civil War than the comic version did, so did a fic called Not A Typical Civil War.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6470827/1/Not_a_Typical_Civil_War

Note: To fans of Maria Hill you might not like this one but keep in mind this was before Maria got developed into a well rounded character and I'd still recommend it to see another example of Civil War done right.

I'd also recommend this.
 http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8359430/1/Firebirds
What AvsX should have been.

What makes it worse is that it wasn't a villain pulling the strings. I would have accepted Civil War and AvsX if it had been revealed that a supervillain was manipulating the whole situation. But it didn't turn out that way. Instead we got something that could have been resolved with both representatives talking it out but ended up being the clusterfuck of all clusterfucks.

Amazons Attack

Linkara says it better than I could
http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2009/03/amazons-attack-1-and-2.html
http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2009/03/amazons-attack-3-and-4.html
http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2009/03/amazons-attack-5-and-6.html

What is it with DC's intent on treating the Amazons like a douche treating a homeless guy begging for change?

There have been some good moments from Good vs Good

Superman vs Flash

No actual fighting or someone getting hurt over it just two guys involved in a friendly competition. With Myxy manipulating things.

Grudge Match

1. Mind control was involved
2. Villain manipulating the scenes
3. They kicked villains butt after the mind control is done
4. SUPERPOWERED GIRL FIGHT!!!! SUPERPOWERED GIRL FIGHT!!!!

The Cadmus Arc in Justice League Unlimited

1. Villain manipulating the scenes
2. Heroes actually learning something and working to improve after said arc
3. Speed Force

It's also Civil War but done by a competent storyteller.

The Avengers
1. Villain manipulating the scenes in the first act
2. Heroes banding together after they learned they were manipulated.
3. Puny God

So what I'm saying is Good vs Good can be ok but at least have one villain manipulating the scenes and have the heroes in question learn and mature from that experience. Also you can do it in a friendly competition manner. Take this video for instance